Artool Level 1 of the Dungeon (0, 0, D:1) a +0 scale mail a +0 leather armour a +0 hand axe (1, 19, D:1) a +0 leather armour (2, 15, D:1) a +1 short sword of speed (2, 21, D:1) a +0 ring mail (15, 16, D:1) a +0 club (23, 11, D:1) a +0 short sword of speed (32, -13, D:1) 4 poisoned darts (47, -7, D:1) a +0 spear (56, 15, D:1) 4 stones (57, -10, D:1) a +0 ring mail Level 2 of the Dungeon [Shop] Ofeffup's General Store a +0 hand axe (30 gold) a +6 ring of strength (360 gold) a potion of cancellation (80 gold) (0, 0, D:2) a +0 long sword (14, 15, D:2) a potion of lignification (18, -9, D:2) a +0 ring mail (18, -6, D:2) a +0 short sword (20, 23, D:2) a +0 club (22, 22, D:2) 3 stones (28, 24, D:2) a +0 ring mail (30, 30, D:2) a +0 rapier (41, 1, D:2) 3 stones Level 3 of the Dungeon (0, 0, D:3) a +0 dagger a +0 robe a +0 dagger a +0 robe (0, 2, D:3) a +0 cloak (0, 17, D:3) a +0 scale mail (1, -1, D:3) a +0 hand axe 3 boomerangs a +0 flail a +0 scale mail a +0 mace a +0 leather armour (14, 12, D:3) a +0 glaive of venom (21, 31, D:3) a +0 short sword (22, 27, D:3) a +0 club (24, 32, D:3) a +0 sling (26, 25, D:3) a +0 sling (43, 12, D:3) 3 stones (48, 10, D:3) a +0 chain mail a +0 club (48, 11, D:3) 7 stones (52, 3, D:3) a +2 short sword of venom (53, 33, D:3) a +0 plate armour Level 4 of the Dungeon [Shop] Cin Were's Book Shoppe the Unrestrained Analects (528 gold) the Unrestrained Analects (528 gold) a book of Scorching (360 gold) a book of Rime (336 gold) a book of Party Tricks (192 gold) a book of Cantrips (144 gold) a book of Misfortune (432 gold) a book of the Senses (384 gold) (0, 0, D:4) 5 stones (4, 6, D:4) a +0 dagger (27, 35, D:4) a +0 hand axe a +0 flail (28, 35, D:4) a +0 club (29, 18, D:4) a +0 chain mail (31, -3, D:4) a +0 helmet (32, 39, D:4) a +0 war axe (33, 0, D:4) a +0 short sword (33, 46, D:4) a +0 club (33, 50, D:4) a +0 club (35, 45, D:4) a +0 robe a +0 dagger a +0 hand axe (41, 34, D:4) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (50, 2, D:4) a +0 ring mail a +0 flail (51, 2, D:4) a +0 robe a +1 dagger of venom a +0 falchion (51, 4, D:4) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (51, 11, D:4) a +0 short sword (56, 5, D:4) 6 gold pieces (60, 14, D:4) a +0 dagger (62, 51, D:4) a +0 long sword Level 5 of the Dungeon (0, 0, D:5) a +0 helmet (3, -2, D:5) a +0 falchion a +0 mace (4, -8, D:5) a +0 hand axe (4, -7, D:5) a +0 whip (4, -2, D:5) a +0 whip (4, 5, D:5) a +0 dagger (4, 7, D:5) a +0 club 2 boomerangs a +0 scale mail a +0 whip (4, 8, D:5) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (5, -8, D:5) a +0 dagger a +0 ring mail (5, 8, D:5) a +0 ring mail a +0 club (10, -13, D:5) a +0 trident (11, -14, D:5) a +0 ring mail a +0 mace (12, -16, D:5) a +0 leather armour (12, -14, D:5) a +0 robe (13, -29, D:5) a +0 flail (14, -29, D:5) a +0 leather armour a +0 dagger (15, -29, D:5) a +0 mace (17, -18, D:5) a +0 spear (18, -16, D:5) a +0 whip (22, -27, D:5) a +0 club a +0 leather armour a +0 mace a +0 leather armour a +0 dagger a +0 robe a +0 hand axe (26, -9, D:5) 8 stones (28, -9, D:5) a +0 war axe a +0 scale mail (29, -9, D:5) a +0 short sword a +0 leather armour (29, -8, D:5) a +0 club (32, -6, D:5) a +0 robe (40, -27, D:5) a +0 broad axe (43, -25, D:5) a +0 falchion (43, -18, D:5) a +0 giant club Level 6 of the Dungeon (0, 0, D:6) a +0 spear (5, -1, D:6) a +0 club (5, 1, D:6) a +2 cloak (6, -3, D:6) a +0 ring mail a +0 dagger (6, -2, D:6) a +3 leather armour a +0 whip (6, -1, D:6) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (8, -2, D:6) a +0 ring mail a +2 spear of venom (8, 0, D:6) a +0 spear (19, 14, D:6) a +0 robe a +1 dagger of draining (21, 17, D:6) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (21, 24, D:6) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (22, 23, D:6) a +0 club (22, 24, D:6) a +0 club (33, 21, D:6) a +0 giant club (35, 28, D:6) a +0 ring mail (39, 11, D:6) a +0 robe (40, -9, D:6) a +0 shortbow Level 7 of the Dungeon (0, 0, D:7) the +5 ring mail of Dehienac {Str+6 Int+4} Str: It affects your strength (+6). Int: It affects your intelligence (+4). (2, 18, D:7) a +0 plate armour (5, 18, D:7) a +0 robe (5, 55, D:7) a ring of poison resistance (10, 12, D:7) 4 large rocks (19, -4, D:7) a +0 chain mail (30, 21, D:7) a +0 dagger (39, 27, D:7) 2 stones (39, 44, D:7) a +0 leather armour a +0 dagger a +0 robe a +0 great sword (43, 21, D:7) a +0 robe a +4 falchion (44, 20, D:7) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (44, 22, D:7) a +0 robe a +0 great sword (51, 50, D:7) a +0 shortbow (52, 50, D:7) a +0 shortbow Level 8 of the Dungeon [Shop] Okiom's Antique Weapon Boutique a +0 hand axe (87 gold) a +3 battleaxe of flaming (832 gold) the +1 scimitar "Dickas" {freeze, Dex+2} (678 gold) It freezes those it strikes, dealing additional cold damage. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures. Dex: It affects your dexterity (+2). a +0 quarterstaff (116 gold) a +0 dagger (58 gold) a +0 dagger (58 gold) a +0 falchion (87 gold) a +4 mace (725 gold) a +0 morningstar of holy wrath (266 gold) a +0 falchion of flaming (214 gold) (0, 0, D:8) a +0 hand axe a +0 robe a +0 dagger (0, 2, D:8) a +0 trident (0, 23, D:8) a +0 plate armour (1, 2, D:8) a +0 whip (4, 36, D:8) a +0 trident (7, 36, D:8) a +0 dagger a +0 short sword 2 boomerangs (8, 36, D:8) a +0 dagger a +0 robe a +0 war axe (9, 23, D:8) a +0 trident (10, 32, D:8) a +0 leather armour (12, 3, D:8) a +0 plate armour a +0 mace (13, 3, D:8) a +0 leather armour a +0 war axe a +0 leather armour a +0 flail (14, 3, D:8) a +1 flail of protection (17, 21, D:8) a ring of poison resistance (21, 11, D:8) 2 stones (21, 16, D:8) a +0 war axe (26, 16, D:8) 5 stones (28, 26, D:8) a +0 quarterstaff (41, 17, D:8) a +0 whip (46, 1, D:8) 6 stones (46, 6, D:8) a +0 helmet Level 9 of the Dungeon [Shop] Denejuc's Antique Armour Shoppe a +0 scale mail (80 gold) a +2 leather armour of cold resistance (380 gold) an orb of energy (320 gold) a +0 scale mail (80 gold) a +0 cloak (90 gold) a +2 robe of the Archmagi (754 gold) a +0 pair of boots (90 gold) a +0 robe (14 gold) (0, 0, D:9) a +0 chain mail a +0 flail (0, 1, D:9) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (1, 0, D:9) a +0 robe a +2 dagger of protection (2, 0, D:9) a +0 flail (4, -2, D:9) 6 stones (11, 22, D:9) a +0 dagger a +0 hand axe a +0 robe a +0 dagger (19, -2, D:9) a +2 glaive of freezing (20, 3, D:9) a +0 mace a +0 plate armour 2 boomerangs a +0 mace (21, 3, D:9) a +0 whip (21, 4, D:9) a +0 whip (21, 44, D:9) a +0 leather armour (22, 4, D:9) a stone a +0 whip a +0 robe a +0 dagger (23, 21, D:9) a +0 dagger a +0 robe a +0 club a +0 leather armour (34, 10, D:9) a +0 trident (38, -7, D:9) a +0 giant spiked club a +0 giant spiked club (39, 19, D:9) a +0 flail a +0 plate armour (41, -5, D:9) a +0 club (41, 14, D:9) a +0 club (42, -5, D:9) a +0 short sword (42, 4, D:9) a +0 long sword (43, -5, D:9) a stone a +0 dagger a +0 dagger a +0 short sword (43, -3, D:9) a +0 whip (43, 9, D:9) 2 stones (44, -5, D:9) a +0 short sword (44, -3, D:9) a +0 club (45, -3, D:9) a +0 whip (58, -12, D:9) a +0 leather armour a +0 whip a +0 chain mail a +0 mace (59, -12, D:9) a +0 short sword a +0 scale mail a +0 club Level 10 of the Dungeon (0, 0, D:10) 4 stones (1, -6, D:10) a +0 robe (3, -5, D:10) +0 acid dragon scales (7, 41, D:10) a +0 falchion (8, 12, D:10) a +0 shortbow (14, 14, D:10) a +0 robe a +3 mace of freezing a +0 robe a +0 trident (15, 14, D:10) a +0 robe a +5 short sword (16, 15, D:10) a +0 short sword (19, 15, D:10) a +0 dagger a +0 club a +0 dagger (20, 14, D:10) a +0 short sword of flaming a +0 club (21, 14, D:10) a +0 short sword of electrocution a +0 club (25, 30, D:10) a +0 robe a +4 dagger of distortion (26, 21, D:10) a +0 longbow (27, 24, D:10) a +0 ring mail a +0 hand axe (30, 7, D:10) a +0 mace (34, -5, D:10) a +0 mace (36, 31, D:10) a +0 scale mail Level 11 of the Dungeon (0, 0, D:11) a +0 flail (2, -22, D:11) a +0 club (4, -11, D:11) 4 stones (11, -10, D:11) 7 stones (11, -8, D:11) a +0 chain mail (11, 4, D:11) a +0 hand axe (12, 3, D:11) a +0 whip a +0 hand axe (12, 4, D:11) a +0 club (13, -35, D:11) a +0 quarterstaff (13, 3, D:11) a +0 club a +0 ring mail (14, 2, D:11) a scroll of noise (14, 7, D:11) a +0 robe (21, -2, D:11) a +0 ring mail a +0 dagger (22, -38, D:11) a +0 whip (22, -2, D:11) a +2 hand axe of electrocution (25, -4, D:11) a +0 ring mail (26, -25, D:11) a +0 pair of gloves (33, -16, D:11) a +0 dagger (33, -15, D:11) a +0 dagger (33, -14, D:11) 4 stones a +0 short sword (42, 1, D:11) a +0 robe (46, -2, D:11) a +0 leather armour a +0 flail (47, -1, D:11) a +0 scale mail a +0 club (49, -8, D:11) a +0 flail (51, -1, D:11) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (52, -7, D:11) a +0 giant club a +0 giant club Level 12 of the Dungeon (4, -22, D:12) a +0 short sword (6, -28, D:12) a +0 leather armour (6, -20, D:12) a +0 flail a potion of degeneration (7, -20, D:12) a +0 plate armour a +0 scimitar a +0 arbalest (9, -15, D:12) a +0 robe a +1 dagger of holy wrath a potion of degeneration (10, -20, D:12) a +0 leather armour a +0 club (11, -28, D:12) a +0 chain mail a +0 long sword (11, -27, D:12) a +0 leather armour a +0 whip a +0 mace a +0 leather armour a +0 club (11, -23, D:12) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (11, -15, D:12) a +0 vorpal mace a +1 animal skin (12, -49, D:12) a +0 long sword (12, -47, D:12) a +0 trident (12, -21, D:12) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (13, -26, D:12) a +0 leather armour a +0 club a potion of degeneration (13, -24, D:12) a +2 dire flail of protection a +0 giant club (13, -21, D:12) a +0 leather armour a +0 mace (15, -27, D:12) a +0 dagger a potion of degeneration (15, -5, D:12) a +0 leather armour a +0 hand axe (16, -5, D:12) a +0 trident a +0 chain mail a +0 scimitar a +0 animal skin (17, -42, D:12) a +3 mace (17, -6, D:12) a +0 chain mail a +0 short sword (17, -5, D:12) a +0 ring mail a +0 club a potion of degeneration (17, -4, D:12) a +0 leather armour a +0 short sword (19, -32, D:12) a +0 chain mail a +0 whip (19, -11, D:12) a +0 plate armour (21, -5, D:12) a +0 leather armour a +0 hand axe a potion of degeneration (22, -6, D:12) a +0 hat (22, -5, D:12) a +0 scale mail a +0 flail (22, -4, D:12) a +0 whip (23, -4, D:12) a +0 plate armour a +0 battleaxe (24, -4, D:12) a +0 plate armour a +0 war axe (25, -5, D:12) a +0 chain mail a +0 club (27, -4, D:12) a +0 ring mail a boomerang a +0 club 2 potions of degeneration (29, -8, D:12) a +0 falchion (30, -3, D:12) a +0 animal skin (37, -6, D:12) a +0 dagger (44, -8, D:12) a potion of degeneration (44, -7, D:12) a potion of degeneration (44, -6, D:12) a potion of degeneration Level 13 of the Dungeon (1, 5, D:13) 18 gold pieces (5, 6, D:13) a +0 rapier (8, 2, D:13) 10 gold pieces Level 14 of the Dungeon (0, 0, D:14) 5 large rocks (4, -3, D:14) a +0 rapier (4, 0, D:14) 5 large rocks (6, -2, D:14) a +0 flail (7, -32, D:14) a potion of lignification (24, -26, D:14) a +0 hand axe (25, -16, D:14) a +0 morningstar the Ecumenical Temple Level 1 of the Orcish Mines [Shop] Febleh's Jewellery Boutique a ring of protection from cold (350 gold) an amulet of the acrobat (420 gold) a ring of protection from cold (350 gold) the ring of Ucvaurph {Ice Int+7} (653 gold) [ring of ice] It enhances your ice magic. Int: It affects your intelligence (+7). rF: It makes you vulnerable to fire. rC: It protects you from cold. a ring of ice (350 gold) a +6 ring of dexterity (504 gold) a ring of poison resistance (280 gold) a ring of flight (245 gold) (0, 0, Orc:1) a +0 giant club (1, -1, Orc:1) a +0 giant spiked club (4, 25, Orc:1) a +0 plate armour a +0 war axe (5, 24, Orc:1) a +0 chain mail (still there?) a +2 great mace (still there?) (5, 26, Orc:1) a +0 plate armour a +0 battleaxe (6, -6, Orc:1) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (6, 21, Orc:1) a +0 chain mail a +0 hand axe (7, -5, Orc:1) a +1 vorpal flail (7, 21, Orc:1) a +0 dagger (8, -3, Orc:1) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (9, -3, Orc:1) a +0 short sword a +0 plate armour a +0 dagger a +0 robe a +0 troll leather armour (9, 21, Orc:1) a +0 leather armour a +0 flail (21, 17, Orc:1) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (28, -8, Orc:1) a +0 quarterstaff (28, -5, Orc:1) a +0 robe (28, 0, Orc:1) a +0 chain mail (28, 1, Orc:1) a +0 long sword a +0 plate armour (30, -2, Orc:1) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (30, -1, Orc:1) a +0 club a +0 leather armour a +0 club (30, 0, Orc:1) a +0 trident a +0 leather armour a +0 dagger a +0 robe (30, 1, Orc:1) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (31, -2, Orc:1) a +0 morningstar a +0 plate armour (32, 3, Orc:1) a +0 ring mail (35, -11, Orc:1) a +0 giant club (46, 12, Orc:1) a +0 leather armour a +0 trident (46, 13, Orc:1) a +0 leather armour a +0 hand axe (50, 7, Orc:1) a +0 dagger (51, 8, Orc:1) a +0 vorpal trident Level 2 of the Orcish Mines [Shop] Imomor's Weapon Emporium a +0 war axe (52 gold) a +0 quarterstaff (60 gold) 6 stones (9 gold) a +0 great sword (97 gold) a +0 flail (52 gold) a +1 vorpal mace (172 gold) a +6 morningstar of holy wrath (588 gold) a +0 dagger (30 gold) a +0 trident (52 gold) a +1 mace of draining (186 gold) [Shop] Feodyuwk's Book Boutique a book of Conjurations (280 gold) a book of Hexes (504 gold) a Young Poisoner's Handbook (280 gold) a Fen Folio (588 gold) a book of Storms (448 gold) a book of Geomancy (252 gold) a book of the Warp (448 gold) a book of Ice (644 gold) a book of Burglary (280 gold) [Shop] Wontih's Book Emporium a book of Transfigurations (520 gold) a book of Power (546 gold) a book of Hexes (468 gold) a book of Blood (364 gold) a book of Weapons (364 gold) a book of the Moon (520 gold) a book of Vapours (208 gold) an Inescapable Atlas (442 gold) a Trismegistus Codex (364 gold) a book of Fire (572 gold) [Shop] Ylehor's Jewellery Boutique a ring of willpower (300 gold) a ring of protection from cold (300 gold) a ring of resist corrosion (240 gold) a +4 ring of evasion (432 gold) a +4 ring of protection (432 gold) an amulet of guardian spirit (360 gold) (2, -9, Orc:2) a +0 plate armour a +0 trident (2, -8, Orc:2) a +0 robe a +2 dagger of venom (2, -7, Orc:2) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (2, -6, Orc:2) a +0 ring mail a +0 mace (11, 1, Orc:2) a +0 chain mail a +3 great mace (12, 0, Orc:2) a +0 chain mail a +0 hand axe a +0 plate armour a +0 hand axe (13, 0, Orc:2) a +0 chain mail a +0 mace a +0 arbalest (13, 1, Orc:2) a +0 dagger of draining a +0 whip (14, 0, Orc:2) a +0 leather armour a +0 short sword (14, 14, Orc:2) a +0 robe a +0 dagger a +0 robe a +0 dagger (15, -1, Orc:2) a +0 club (15, 1, Orc:2) a +0 chain mail a +0 glaive a +2 trident of freezing a +0 dagger a +0 hand axe (15, 2, Orc:2) a +0 leather armour a +0 trident (15, 11, Orc:2) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (16, 0, Orc:2) a +0 chain mail a +0 war axe (16, 2, Orc:2) a +0 plate armour a +0 war axe a +0 arbalest a +0 trident (17, 10, Orc:2) a +0 ring mail 2 boomerangs of dispersal a +0 club a +0 club (18, 11, Orc:2) a +0 plate armour a +0 short sword (29, 15, Orc:2) a +0 leather armour a +0 flail (31, 16, Orc:2) a +0 giant spiked club a +0 mace (31, 17, Orc:2) a +0 chain mail a +0 war axe a +0 arbalest (32, 16, Orc:2) a +0 mace (33, 15, Orc:2) a +1 dagger of flaming (33, 17, Orc:2) a +0 chain mail a +0 halberd (34, 2, Orc:2) a +0 leather armour a +0 flail (34, 15, Orc:2) a +0 robe a +0 dagger a +0 plate armour a +0 long sword a +0 arbalest a +0 chain mail a +0 glaive (34, 29, Orc:2) a +0 chain mail a +0 mace (35, 1, Orc:2) a +0 flail (35, 2, Orc:2) a +0 club (35, 3, Orc:2) a +0 ring mail a +0 mace a +0 chain mail a +0 flail (35, 11, Orc:2) a +0 mace (35, 12, Orc:2) a +2 dagger of venom (35, 16, Orc:2) a +0 chain mail a +0 dagger (35, 23, Orc:2) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (35, 29, Orc:2) a +0 robe a +1 dagger of speed (35, 31, Orc:2) a +0 dagger (36, 3, Orc:2) a +0 leather armour a +2 short sword of electrocution a +0 robe a +0 dagger (36, 12, Orc:2) a +0 plate armour a +0 trident (36, 17, Orc:2) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (36, 24, Orc:2) a +0 plate armour a +0 battleaxe (36, 30, Orc:2) a +0 club (36, 31, Orc:2) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (37, 3, Orc:2) a +0 chain mail a +1 short sword of venom a +0 arbalest (37, 30, Orc:2) a +0 robe a +0 dagger a +0 plate armour a +0 glaive (37, 31, Orc:2) a +0 robe a +0 dagger (43, 34, Orc:2) a +0 mace (44, 32, Orc:2) a +0 short sword (44, 33, Orc:2) a +0 leather armour a +0 short sword of protection a +0 falchion 3 boomerangs of dispersal a +0 whip a +0 ring mail a +0 dagger (45, 19, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (46, 16, Orc:2) a +0 trident of freezing a +0 plate armour (48, -2, Orc:2) a +0 whip of venom a +0 leather armour (48, 17, Orc:2) a +0 dagger a +0 robe (49, 16, Orc:2) a +0 mace (49, 17, Orc:2) a +2 short sword of venom (49, 29, Orc:2) a +0 leather armour a +0 dagger a +0 plate armour a +0 flail (49, 30, Orc:2) a +0 plate armour a +2 great mace (49, 31, Orc:2) a +0 dagger (51, 1, Orc:2) a +0 battleaxe a +0 chain mail a +0 hand axe (51, 30, Orc:2) a +0 leather armour a +0 hand axe (52, 26, Orc:2) a +0 whip (55, 27, Orc:2) a +0 chain mail a +0 hand axe (56, 24, Orc:2) a +0 flail (56, 29, Orc:2) a +0 leather armour a +0 flail (58, 3, Orc:2) a +0 robe a +3 dagger of electrocution Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts (0, 0, Lair:1) a potion of degeneration (3, 35, Lair:1) a +4 chain mail of fire resistance (4, 35, Lair:1) +0 ice dragon scales +0 steam dragon scales +0 swamp dragon scales (5, 35, Lair:1) 3 throwing nets (6, 34, Lair:1) a staff of earth a staff of earth (7, 34, Lair:1) a wand of polymorph (4) a wand of charming (4) a wand of flame (10) a wand of iceblast (9) a wand of flame (20) (7, 35, Lair:1) a ring of poison resistance a ring of magical power a +6 ring of dexterity a ring of magical power a +4 ring of evasion (9, 33, Lair:1) a +1 whip of freezing the +5 hand axe of the End of Times {venom, rC+} It poisons the flesh of those it strikes. rC: It protects you from cold. (10, 30, Lair:1) a +2 short sword of distortion (11, 34, Lair:1) a scroll of vulnerability 2 scrolls of fear a scroll of enchant armour 3 scrolls of poison (11, 35, Lair:1) a potion of resistance 3 potions of brilliance a potion of magic a potion of invisibility (12, 34, Lair:1) a scroll of immolation a scroll of noise (12, 35, Lair:1) 3 potions of attraction 2 potions of mutation 3 potions of degeneration 2 potions of lignification (19, 15, Lair:1) a +0 scale mail (22, -10, Lair:1) a +0 kite shield (31, -1, Lair:1) a +0 long sword of draining (45, -9, Lair:1) 9 stones (45, 5, Lair:1) a -2 spear a +0 animal skin (47, 16, Lair:1) 6 stones Level 2 of the Lair of Beasts (4, 4, Lair:2) a +0 leather armour Level 1 of the Swamp (0, 0, Swamp:1) 6 atropa-tipped darts (1, 7, Swamp:1) a +0 quarterstaff a +0 robe (2, 5, Swamp:1) a +0 rapier a +0 robe a +0 buckler a spriggan corpse (skeletalised by now) (2, 6, Swamp:1) a +0 rapier a +0 robe a spriggan corpse (skeletalised by now)